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	<title>Comments on: How would you improve PEAR?</title>
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		<title>By: john</title>
		<link>http://blog.joshuaeichorn.com/archives/2007/05/03/how-would-you-improve-pear/comment-page-1/#comment-587968</link>
		<dc:creator>john</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 08 Nov 2008 03:10:21 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Using just part of Pear code would be nice. Of course with giving a reference to the source. There are many times I&#039;d just like to use one function and not the whole library.

thanks</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Using just part of Pear code would be nice. Of course with giving a reference to the source. There are many times I&#8217;d just like to use one function and not the whole library.</p>
<p>thanks</p>
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		<title>By: udo</title>
		<link>http://blog.joshuaeichorn.com/archives/2007/05/03/how-would-you-improve-pear/comment-page-1/#comment-229524</link>
		<dc:creator>udo</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 17 Jul 2007 11:28:32 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Asking developers who cannot devote much time to step back and let others do the work.
It is no use for nobody when the estimated time of getting a usable package is many years in the future. If somebody does not have the time, he shouldn&#039;t attempt to create new demanding packages. 
There have to be regulations of how long a package can stay in alpha and beta state, before the project lead is vacant.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Asking developers who cannot devote much time to step back and let others do the work.<br />
It is no use for nobody when the estimated time of getting a usable package is many years in the future. If somebody does not have the time, he shouldn&#8217;t attempt to create new demanding packages.<br />
There have to be regulations of how long a package can stay in alpha and beta state, before the project lead is vacant.</p>
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		<title>By: Evert</title>
		<link>http://blog.joshuaeichorn.com/archives/2007/05/03/how-would-you-improve-pear/comment-page-1/#comment-214727</link>
		<dc:creator>Evert</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 19 Jun 2007 18:09:17 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I think one very positive change would be less bureaucracy..</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I think one very positive change would be less bureaucracy..</p>
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		<title>By: Stuardo -StR- Rodriguez</title>
		<link>http://blog.joshuaeichorn.com/archives/2007/05/03/how-would-you-improve-pear/comment-page-1/#comment-203244</link>
		<dc:creator>Stuardo -StR- Rodriguez</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 31 May 2007 21:51:55 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>* read the patch ppl send.  We have found  many bugs, send the patch, never see the updated, and read that  someone else has, found many bugs, send the  patch and never see the update.

* pear upgrade-all --alldeps

* pear install package --target ftp://user@server.com/path

* E_STRICT  pls, force all packages to be upgraded for PHP5

* let other projects be hosted by the pear channel in their own namespace, like
pear install Solar_SolarFramework
pear install Zend_Framework</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>* read the patch ppl send.  We have found  many bugs, send the patch, never see the updated, and read that  someone else has, found many bugs, send the  patch and never see the update.</p>
<p>* pear upgrade-all &#8211;alldeps</p>
<p>* pear install package &#8211;target <a href="ftp://user@server.com/path" rel="nofollow">ftp://user@server.com/path</a></p>
<p>* E_STRICT  pls, force all packages to be upgraded for PHP5</p>
<p>* let other projects be hosted by the pear channel in their own namespace, like<br />
pear install Solar_SolarFramework<br />
pear install Zend_Framework</p>
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		<title>By: DC</title>
		<link>http://blog.joshuaeichorn.com/archives/2007/05/03/how-would-you-improve-pear/comment-page-1/#comment-192574</link>
		<dc:creator>DC</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 09 May 2007 04:34:38 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Improve by Keeping up the good work !! :-)
DC</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Improve by Keeping up the good work !! <img src='http://blog.joshuaeichorn.com/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_smile.gif' alt=':-)' class='wp-smiley' /> <br />
DC</p>
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		<title>By: Joshua Eichorn's Blog &#187; Blog Archive &#187; Thanks for your thoughts on improving PEAR</title>
		<link>http://blog.joshuaeichorn.com/archives/2007/05/03/how-would-you-improve-pear/comment-page-1/#comment-192361</link>
		<dc:creator>Joshua Eichorn's Blog &#187; Blog Archive &#187; Thanks for your thoughts on improving PEAR</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 08 May 2007 16:43:55 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] The weblog of Joshua Eichorn, AJAX, PHP and Open Source      &#171; How would you improve PEAR? [...]</description>
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		<title>By: developercast.com &#187; Greg Beaver&#8217;s Blog: Is anything working in PEAR?</title>
		<link>http://blog.joshuaeichorn.com/archives/2007/05/03/how-would-you-improve-pear/comment-page-1/#comment-192079</link>
		<dc:creator>developercast.com &#187; Greg Beaver&#8217;s Blog: Is anything working in PEAR?</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 07 May 2007 21:53:47 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] going on with the PEAR project.   Newly elected PEAR Group member Josh Eichorn posted a blog entry, &#8220;How would you improve PEAR&#8221; recently. I was impressed with the response, it seems many people outside of PEAR are monitoring it [...]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] going on with the PEAR project.   Newly elected PEAR Group member Josh Eichorn posted a blog entry, &#8220;How would you improve PEAR&#8221; recently. I was impressed with the response, it seems many people outside of PEAR are monitoring it [...]</p>
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		<title>By: TomekG</title>
		<link>http://blog.joshuaeichorn.com/archives/2007/05/03/how-would-you-improve-pear/comment-page-1/#comment-191659</link>
		<dc:creator>TomekG</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 06 May 2007 17:27:42 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>a better looking website! look of all php sites (php.net, pear.php.net and so on) is kinda embarracing in comparision with e.g. www.djangoproject.com or even www.rubyonrails.org
I could even contribute something myself in that matter :)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>a better looking website! look of all php sites (php.net, pear.php.net and so on) is kinda embarracing in comparision with e.g. <a href="http://www.djangoproject.com" rel="nofollow">http://www.djangoproject.com</a> or even <a href="http://www.rubyonrails.org" rel="nofollow">http://www.rubyonrails.org</a><br />
I could even contribute something myself in that matter <img src='http://blog.joshuaeichorn.com/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_smile.gif' alt=':)' class='wp-smiley' /> </p>
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		<title>By: Bertrand Manson</title>
		<link>http://blog.joshuaeichorn.com/archives/2007/05/03/how-would-you-improve-pear/comment-page-1/#comment-191508</link>
		<dc:creator>Bertrand Manson</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 06 May 2007 08:00:30 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I&#039;d like to see PEAR_Exception as an independant package.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I&#8217;d like to see PEAR_Exception as an independant package.</p>
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		<title>By: Stan</title>
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		<dc:creator>Stan</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 06 May 2007 00:27:38 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Greg,
Excellent!  I didn&#039;t see your name anywhere on the list and was concerned that PEAR was missing out on a valuable resource - I only keep up to date on PEAR-appenings from time to time.

Thank you for pointing out the implementation of some of these suggestions - I think the general feel of some of the posters here is that these are great moves... we all just hope they are contagious to other parts of the project. I&#039;m hopeful for the direction PEAR is headed in.

On a slightly side note, noticing the release of HTML_AJAX 0.5.1 today - and thinking to myself that a bridge between HTML_AJAX, it&#039;s internal JS library and jQuery or even Prototype would be handy.  I&#039;d love to see PEAR in general adopt some bridge-type packages for interacting with already establishing open source libraries.  HTML_AJAX in particular has the potential to be driver-based and allow PHP developers to keep up with their existent JS practices.  How cool would that be?

Anyhow, that&#039;s my $0.02 - but don&#039;t take it to the bank.

Pax,
- Stan</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Greg,<br />
Excellent!  I didn&#8217;t see your name anywhere on the list and was concerned that PEAR was missing out on a valuable resource &#8211; I only keep up to date on PEAR-appenings from time to time.</p>
<p>Thank you for pointing out the implementation of some of these suggestions &#8211; I think the general feel of some of the posters here is that these are great moves&#8230; we all just hope they are contagious to other parts of the project. I&#8217;m hopeful for the direction PEAR is headed in.</p>
<p>On a slightly side note, noticing the release of HTML_AJAX 0.5.1 today &#8211; and thinking to myself that a bridge between HTML_AJAX, it&#8217;s internal JS library and jQuery or even Prototype would be handy.  I&#8217;d love to see PEAR in general adopt some bridge-type packages for interacting with already establishing open source libraries.  HTML_AJAX in particular has the potential to be driver-based and allow PHP developers to keep up with their existent JS practices.  How cool would that be?</p>
<p>Anyhow, that&#8217;s my $0.02 &#8211; but don&#8217;t take it to the bank.</p>
<p>Pax,<br />
- Stan</p>
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